and yet, you know, this wasn't one of those things where, you know, you knew there must be something there, and yet, you know, when you really think of it, it's not that shocking. you know, it's very mr. appalachian trail here. in many ways this is the washington male curse. these guys, petraeus especially, he was a geek who played by the rules his whole life, suddenly becomes a rock star. i think there's something else that struck me when i was in iraq. i was fascinated by his marriage. he told me he would go sometimes 18 months without seeing his wife holly. >> so he talked about his relationship with you. >> yes. he told of the beautiful love story with how they met. he talked about her with the utmost respect. and she was the superintendent's daughter when he was at west point. the supe being the top, top guy.